93-04 Civics are tanks
Would that be a wise car to put money towards?
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those rims are god awful... look like American Racing brand rims..
Rims are excessive for an otherwise boring car. I'd throw a small purposeless spoiler on the back just so the rims have something to match with.
Also, 220000km (I refuse to use an inferior measurement) on that sumbitch. Not good. Get something under 130000km if you can. Conversion to miles (lol) is division by a factor of 1.609 or so.
Last edited by Zak; 07-31-2012 at 11:03 PM.
someone get monday night combat
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Go drive em. Hell, my first car was what should have been a terrible idea - it was a joke. Then I drove it. Instead of a lol I got a panzer that was hella fun to drive and lasted nearly 5 years for $1500. Yea, even committed crime #1 of car shopping - checking out used cars in the dark. Back to the care thing - my 325 I mentioned had 185k on the odo. All highway miles, from two owners - original owner had the records in the owners manual, second owner was the "Hank Hill is a fictional character based off of my lifestyle" type. Ended up with 220k on it - clutch issue which wasn't worth fixing at that point. Miles - or to satisfy Zak - Kilometers, eh? aren't created equally. Not all cars are either - several guys had the same car as me closing in on 300k trouble free.
God I miss my E30. I was worried about the mileage when I noticed it, but a simple check of some forums - well hell, if everyone is doing this no problem, they got it right at the factory. 135k on a Honda or Toyota is nothing. Unless the guys before beat the shit out of it. The older ones are better though for mega-mileage, 90s. But by now that is sorta irrelevant as most of those cars have already racked up all the miles they can.
So yea, some times you think something sucks (that RX7 though... do NOT get anything Rotary unless you know what you are doing) and it shows otherwise. So check em all. You may find you absolutely hate something, for example, my knees sit in the glove compartment on a 97 Honda Accord. The newer Monte Carlo SSes torque steer like a muthafucka. Perfectly fine cars, but no way in hell I would ever own one. You might not notice either and they could be perfect.
Car shopping = fun. You get an excuse to drive several different cars for free.
Checking the Buffalo listings... lol. Some fishy ads, as well as a guy who is seemingly convinced the Pontiac Fiero is a collectors car. lmao Get a newspaper, scour for what tickles the testes. Cmon, it's a car. Do you really want to cruise around in a 1993 Ford Escort? I know I wouldn't. I can't stand 4 doors. Or SUVs / Trucks. What about you? Strangely, there aren't as many options as one would think once you narrow it down.
Narrow down what you want in a car besides cheapness. Then hunt down options. Then evaluate them. Go home, scavenge for information on those cars. Eliminate the ones which fail (if you find a car where forums are exploding with serious mechanical issues chances are you don't want to bother... unless the car is special), try em again. Never fails.
Cars. Never fails to make Empty make a post that is far too excessive.
Last edited by Empty Box; 07-31-2012 at 11:56 PM.
Originally Posted by Triple_000_Ought;
The transmission goes out at about 150,000 to 250,000 miles. Other than that none of them have ever had the ML320 in for anything else not even a hiccuping door lock mechanism or window servo.
They told me that the transmission goes out because of something called "clutch packs" on the V6 version having too many spacers when the car was made. That is as I understood it. The V6 ML320 and the later model V8 ML450/550 use the same transmission and the fix was to install the heavier clutch packs into the transmission for the V6 ML320. Again as I understood it. However the caveat is that the only years that are apparently worth a damn are from 1998 - 2003. Anything after that and all of them have problems. After thinking about it it makes sense Mercedes Benz makes 18 wheelers and large trucks in Europe they have been doing it since at least WWII. Their cars however are like horses and boats a complete money trap.
The motors in those vehicles last 400 - 500,000 miles. Parts are really cheap. I wanted to purchase a first car for one of my friends daughters, something that she would not have to worry about breaking down and could travel long distances while being comfortable. She was going to college and I knew she would need something dependable without having to also keep spending money on the thing. The ML320 was perfect for her. Bought one for her for 3000$ with the transmission having already been replaced and it needed brakes rotors as the person that owned it before had ground the brake pads down to the rivets and scored the rotors. All told I think it was 3280$ She has been really happy with it.
Last edited by WaLkAwaY; 08-01-2012 at 06:36 AM.
Hanson, also make sure to test drive the car without the radio on (the classic dumbfuck trap).
Having a trusted mechanic (lol?) with you doing a quick inspection (or even better, bring the car to this mechanic) prior to the purchase is certainly a good thing.
Mileage is often tweaked, at least here. There is pretty much nothing you can do about that. Asking for the maintenance record (he should be able to get it from the dealer) is not a bad thing. At least it shows you are not too gullible.
Rust is a huge problem here, less in the US. Don't be afraid to look under the doors/around the body.
Negotiate. Shaving 10% (20%?) is certainly feasible.